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I'm happy for you to go ahead and add the award date and location to every entry, but please leave the year= entry alone. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:26, 30 July 2020 (PDT) | I'm happy for you to go ahead and add the award date and location to every entry, but please leave the year= entry alone. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:26, 30 July 2020 (PDT) | ||
| − | PS I can see there is some merit in using the award date for the author, as you have done for Leigh Brackett, but the entries are clearly labelled as a Retro Hugo, and relate to work they produced at that date, so its not clear its a better system. If we do make that design decision it is a lot of work making that change across the whole site, to keep it consistent. Best again to get agreement with Mark and myself before embarking on than making the change piecemeal. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:29, 30 July 2020 (PDT) | + | PS I can see there is some merit in using the award date for the author, as you have done for [[Leigh Brackett]], but the entries are clearly labelled as a Retro Hugo, and relate to work they produced at that date, so its not clear its a better system. If we do make that design decision it is a lot of work making that change across the whole site, to keep it consistent. Best again to get agreement with Mark and myself before embarking on than making the change piecemeal. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:29, 30 July 2020 (PDT) |
PS, changing the Retro Book Hugo redirect without consultation was a bad idea. I have reverted it. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:32, 30 July 2020 (PDT) | PS, changing the Retro Book Hugo redirect without consultation was a bad idea. I have reverted it. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 14:32, 30 July 2020 (PDT) | ||
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Retro Hugos[edit]
Entering Retro Hugo data as if it were awarded in the year of publication instead of in the year it was actually awarded really seems like putting out deliberate misinformation. One can’t expect all users of this site to understand what the Retro Hugos are about. It makes more sense for the 1945 Retros to be “2020 — 1945 Whatever Retro Hugo” and not as if awarded in 1945, and for links to lead to an explanation of the Retros rather than the regular Hugos. Otherwise, it’s seriously confusing. Leah Zeldes Smith (talk) 14:15, 30 July 2020 (PDT)
The Retro Hugos are a really confusing thing to document, as they use modern terminology to document old things. But the convention we have adopted on the site is that if they are called the XXXX Retro Hugos by WSFS, we put the year as XXXX. That allows them to be found easily in all the timelines that the year= field generates, and all the automatic sequencing code inside the templates. There is a lot behind the scenes for this. Its always best to ask before changing something, as the consequences are not obvious.
I'm happy for you to go ahead and add the award date and location to every entry, but please leave the year= entry alone. John (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2020 (PDT)
PS I can see there is some merit in using the award date for the author, as you have done for Leigh Brackett, but the entries are clearly labelled as a Retro Hugo, and relate to work they produced at that date, so its not clear its a better system. If we do make that design decision it is a lot of work making that change across the whole site, to keep it consistent. Best again to get agreement with Mark and myself before embarking on than making the change piecemeal. John (talk) 14:29, 30 July 2020 (PDT)
PS, changing the Retro Book Hugo redirect without consultation was a bad idea. I have reverted it. John (talk) 14:32, 30 July 2020 (PDT)
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