Los Angeles Clubs

When you think of clubs in LA, you think of LASFS, the first club in LA and one which is still active. But there were others — many others.

LASFS

LASFS (which was also the LA chapter of the Science Fiction League) is one of the longest-lived and most important clubs ever and rates its own article.

LASFS Subgroups

The Knanves

fl. 1943–
A group of Insurgents which organized around 1943 in opposition to other members of LASFS over a disputed Directorate election in what was called The War of the Knanves. (The name was given to them by T. Bruce Yerke from a typo in a fanzine. No, I don't know how to pronounce it.) Their fanzine was The Knanve and was edited by T. Bruce Yerke.

• Have at Thee Knanves by Samuel D. Russell
• The Knanve by T. Bruce Yerke

Los Angeles Futurian Society

Fl. 1944–45

Starting around June 1944, feuding within LASFS took a turn for the worse with the formation of the Los Angeles Futurian Society (the name harks back to Degler's ersatz 1942 club Futurian Society of Los Angeles , a quasi-formal club-within-a-club founded by Jimmy Kepner, Mel Brown, Art Saha and Alva Rogers. It was not separate from the LASFS but within it, with all the members retaining membership in the mother club. The Futurians would continue to be the biggest and strongest clique in the LASFS until its dissolution in September 1945.

The Outsiders

Fl. 1943-45?
The Outsiders (not The Outlanders', see below) was a group that split off from LASFS briefly during the feuds of the early 40s. F. T. Laney wrote about the organization in Fandango 6 which appeared in FAPA in September 1944:

An Experiment in Local Fan Organization

Out of the great mass of stupidities arising from the late fan feud in Los Angeles, there remains a slight residue of worthwhile experience. While of course the bulk of the actions on both sides were of a depth of stupidity not to be imagined by one not on the scene, the experiences of The Outsiders should be preserved in the archives of fandom for the benefit of ensuing local clubs. I should not take the space in FAPA for this purpose had it not been for the large amount of Futurian organizational material in the 28th mailing. As it is, I do not feel that this article is quite so out of place.

When the group seceded from the LASFS, all twelve or thirteen of us wished to form some sort of fantasy society -- we did not know for certain what we did want, except that we wished to stress informality and accomplishment at the expense of formal business meetings and constitutional quibblings. Until late in the career of The Outsiders, the group did not even have a constitution, but it was finally found necessary -- so T. Bruce Yerke (author of at least two different constitutions for the LASFS) was delegated to draw up the one published later in this issue. Our first meetings were nothing more than discussion gatherings held either at the Carolina Pines or at Fran Shack. Much to my surprise, the individual members respected each other's rights quite well; the discussions were carried on very successfully without benefit of presiding officer or parliamentary law. As the group began to get under way, it was decided that it should function largely as a publishing organization; and the back room at Fran Shack was fitted up for this purpose. (Equipment consisted of two mimeographs (Bronson’s and Laney’s), stylii, stapler, trimming board, and slip sheets.) I decided to hold open house twice a week (Tuesdays and Thursdays) and for several months the group published vigorously.

In actual practise, these sessions were no end of fun. There were usually two crews mimeographing (crank-turner and slipsheeter), and generally two or three idle hands, who variously read, played records, or otherwise lent moral support to the laborers. By default, I took charge of these sessions; deciding whose stencils would be run when, whip-cracking at delinquent stencil cutters, and in general strawbossing the deal. It worked beautifully, though I fear many of the kiddies decided that my mother must have been scared by Simon Legree.

Other activities of the group (aside from the feuding) revolved largely around the weekly dinner meetings Saturday nights, and informal get-togethers on other occasions, while in the earlier days of The Outsiders, far too much attention was paid to bickering with the LASFS, or in holding hate sessions; after a month, most of the members had settled down to the pursuit of life, liberty, rosebud, and fan activity. The productivity of the group may be judged by the 106 pages of material in the 28th mailing.

The casual reader may perhaps be wondering why The Outsiders failed as a club. The group had the seeds of its own early decease in its very nature, or rather, in the very nature of ite members, The majority of Outsiders were older fane who had largely lost their interest in the field -- thus, the group obviously needed new blood. These same members were adamantly opposed to letting any newer, more enthusiastic fans associate with them. Thus, the group was foredoomed to failure.

But our experiences with cooperative publishing, with informal meetings utterly without constitutional quibbling, with unorganized individuals acting in cooperative harmony without the stultification of formal laws and precedents -- all these things point along the lines that any permanently successful local fan club must follow. The members of fandom are, generally speaking, far more interested in fantasy-weird-stf, fan publishing, and intelligent discussion than in the squabbles which will invariably arise when they allow themselves to be yoked with constitution, by-laws, officers, and all the rest of the paraphernalia of the average DAR chapter. And the best fan club is the one which provides heavily of activity in which each member can participate personally.

From experience, I would say that if the group has one or two members of an aggressive type as leaders, it can rise to great heights without once going through the misery of a formal meeting. We, at least, found this to be so.

The Constitution of The Outsiders

CONSTRUCTION:
The Outsiders is a loosely knit body of persons professing an interest and inclination in that form of literature known as fantasy and/or science fiction, as represented in pulp news-stand magazines and/or better and lesser known literary books of this nature.

In addition, there is a predominate interest on the part of the group in amateur printing, writing, and editing. For this purpose, various individual members maintain reproducing equipment, and from time to time issue amateur magazines.

The OFFICERS of The Outsiders shall consist of a Regulator, whose duties differ from that of a constitutional president or chairman in that he functions according to neither Robert’s parliamentary procedure nor any similar local document, but regulates the order of business and discussion by the application of well known principles of common-sense logic. The Regulator shall be elected by a simple majority and serve until such time as a simple majority deems it desirable to replace him, or until such time as he himself desires to resign; and a Secretary-Treasurer, whose duties will be (a) to be the official correspondent for the group with other groups and parties and (b) to receive and account for whatsoever funds the group raises or receives.

MEMBERSHIP:
The Outsiders is a closed organization, membership being obtainable through invitation and acclaim. As this group is endeavouring to function on democratic principles, the great emphasis is laid on personal and individual integrity on the part of the members and their attitude towards the club, their own group behavior, and towards the consideration of new members as proposed by any member in good standing.

All persons who are members shall pay one dollar per month to the Secretary-Treasurer, due at the beginning of each month. This money shall be established as a holding fund, disbursements to be controlled by a three-fourths majority vote.

From this group such persons as are willing and able to contribute to Project M shall be recruited. Project M, though a project of The Outsiders, is not to be construed as the primary purpose of this group nor is participation in this project to be construed as requisite for membership in the group.

MEETINGS AND PROCEDURES:
It should be emphasized again that The Outsiders is not constructed along parliamentary or constitutional lines. The group is informal at all times. Meetings shall be called on any regular or irregular date. However, to assure fair-play, any meeting at which large amounts of money are to be disbursed or whereat major policy changes are to be considered, must be announced within ten days of the time of said meeting. Unusual situations shall be acted on by those present, and it is presumed intelligent consideration will be given to all aspects of any such situation.

To facilitate the presentation of proposals to the group, those persons interested should meet in committee sessions at some date prior to the meeting and work out their proposal so as to clarify it among themselves before occupying the members' time with it.

In consideration of the fact that the membership is to be selected with the utmost consideration, it is felt that further regulations will be more of a technical morass than an assistance; and it is further assumed that the intelligence of the individuals concerned will be sufficient and ample to overcome unusual situations, which no amount of written jurisprudence can completely foresee.

It is hoped that this system of acclaim and consideration will prove successful; inasmuch as parliamentary procedure has in the past proven impractical with a group of this nature.

The Outlanders

fl. 1948–
The Outlanders (a.k.a. the Outlander Society or OS) was a Los Angeles-area fan club for members of LASFS who lived in the "outlands" of Los Angeles, and thus found it difficult to make it to every meeting of LASFS. The organization was founded in October 1948 and the original eight members were Len Moffatt, Rick Sneary, Stan Woolston, John Van Couvering, Con Pederson, Bill Elias, Alan Hershey and Freddie Hershey. It met monthly.

The club had the reputation of being one of the more intellectual groups in fandom, in large part because of the clubzine, The Outlander. (Art Rapp called it fandom's "most articulate and intellectual group".) Meetings were all-day sessions, but were not business meetings: there were no dues, officers, or bylaws. Members stayed connected between meetings by a continuing chain letter.

When the Outlanders were founded in 1948, some of them began using the slogan "South Gate in '58" as an interlineation or filler in their fanzines – South Gate being the town where their founder Rick Sneary, a.k.a. "the Hermit of South Gate," lived. The idea was initially to promote an after 10-year reunion of the Outlanders, but eventually it became a successful Worldcon bid. The Solacon was held in a Los Angeles hotel which was ceded for the Labor Day weekend to the Mayor of South Gate by the Mayor of Los Angeles, as South Gate did not have a hotel large enough to host the event which drew fans in the hundreds.

From Fancyclopedia 2, ca. 1959

A fanclub (formed October 1948) for people living outside the city limits of LA; Rick Sneary's group. It met approximately monthly till mid-52. Sneary, Moffatt, Woolston, Pederson, van Couvering, and Rory Faulkner were important members. Thirteen issues of OO The Outlander were published, and the Third Westercon was produced.

The Insurgents

The Insurgents was a name given to a group of 1940s LA fans who fomented larger movement of Insurgents (which see).

Early Clubs (1930s–50s)

World Girdlers' Correspondence Club

World Girdlers' International Science League Correspondence Club

fl. 1937
The WGCC was a club which existed (briefly) around 1937. It was the brainchild of Vernon Harry in Los Angeles and was announced in the January 1937 issue of Fantasy Magazine. It never had more than a few members and folded when Harry went to work on a night shift.

It's unclear whether it was a bit of a scam from the beginning, or the product of teenage megalomania.

T. Bruce Yerke became a member just before it folded.

It was mentioned in Fancy 1 under WGCC:

From Fancyclopedia 1, ca. 1944

World Girdlers' Correspondence Club. One of the mushrooms of the First Transition. No other information available.

Futurian Society of Los Angeles

Futurian Society of California

fl. 1942–42
Under three different names, this is one of the many ersatz clubs started by Claude Degler. But see the later Los Angeles Futurian Society.

James Kepner and some other neofans were members, along with Forrest J Ackerman as an honorary member. As soon as Degler left L.A., the others dropped off, leaving Ackerman the sole member and when Ackerman went into the Army, it was memberless.

Harbor Fantasy League

fl. 1942
The HFL was an early club -- perhaps the earliest -- in the greater LA area outside LA itself. It was organized in early 1942 by five married couples (including Pogo (Director), Barbara Steedman (Secretary), Dan Lyons (Treasurer), and Russ Wood (Editor)). It tried to avoid being taken over by kids by limiting membership to married couples. It met bi-weekly.

The club rather quickly dissolved when the male members started being drafted for World War II and was dead by August 1942. But before it collapsed, it managed to outrage Forrest J Ackerman when one of the HFL's members suggested that he needed a psychiatrist!

From Fancyclopedia 1, ca. 1944

The Harbor Fantasy League, a group of married couples in the Los Angeles area, primarily the work of Rus Wood and Pogo. It came into existence in 1942 and shortly fell into inactivity because of members' departure for the wars.

Mañana Literary Society

fl. late 1940s–50s
The Mañana Literary Society was a formal meeting of SF fiction writers in Los Angeles in the 40s and 50s. Hosted by Robert A. Heinlein, the membership included authors such as Anthony Boucher, Arthur K. Barnes, Edmond Hamilton, L. Ron Hubbard, Henry Kuttner, C. L. Moore, L. Sprague de Camp, Cleve Cartmill, Leigh Brackett, and Jack Williamson.

The characters in the mystery Rocket to the Morgue by H. H. Holmes (Anthony Boucher) were based on members of the Society.

Sorcerers, Rumrunners, and Paraihs, Ltd.

SRPL

Fl. 1954-56

From Fancyclopedia 2, ca. 1959

Sorcerers, Rumrunners, and Paraihs, Ltd. A group of Long Beach fans formed around a mutual interest in cards, stf, talk, LASFS and selves in late 1954; Ron Ellik, John Trimble, Brad Carlson, Russ Martin, Paul Turner, Alex Bratman, and some others. Trimble, Carlson and Jones joined the Air Force in spring 1955, while the others gafiated or moved. Eventually Trimble, Ellik, and Bratman were the only ones left active, and none of them lived in Long Beach any more. The club, when it was more than a group of cardplaying young fen, held itself famous for having more constitutions, and more liberal constitutions, than any other group.

Clubs of the 1960s–90s

Southwest Association of Fans

Fl. late 70s
SWAF was an organization started in the late 70s in Los Angeles. It cost nothing to join and promised to issue a bimonthly zine listing only "only honest fan organizations, individuals and businesses." Its goal was to prevent dishonest, non-fan speculators from ripping fans off, to keep fans up-to-date on the latest news in fandom, and to assist fans on fandom-related projects such as publishing fanzines, putting on conventions, and so forth.

Circle of the High Hallack

Fl. 1979
An Andre Norton Circle organized by Cynthia McQuillin in Long Beach, CA.

Central L. A. Club

Fl. 1982
A club in Los Angeles organized by Lee Gold and Barry Gold. It met monthly on Sunday for socializing and a dinner expedition.

Desolation of Smaug

Fl. 1982
A discussion group of the Mythopoeic Society located in the Pomona Valley region of Los Angeles, CA.

Mydgard

Fl. 1982
A Mythopoeic Society Discussion Group located in the Hollywood-Wilshire area of Los Angeles. It is headed by Lee Speth.

Lothlorien

Fl. 1982
A Mythopoeic Society Discussion Group located in the San Gabriel Valley area of Los Angeles. (N.b., Lothlorien was also a name of the Dartford Tolkien Society.)

Nargothrond

Fl. 1982

A Mythopoeic Society Discussion Group located in the Orange County area of Los Angeles. (N.b., it was also the title of a Rick Brooks fanzine.)

Fantasy Artist Network

Fl. 1982
FAN was a club located in Los Angeles which was aimed at sf artists who illustrate fanzines, exhibit at convention art shows, and who aspire to pro careers in fantasy art. It met monthly and published the clubzine Fantasy Artist.

Long Beach Science Fiction Association

Fl. 1980-82
A club in Long Beach, CA. It sponsored A Mid-Winter Convention. (Is this different from the CSULB Science Fiction Club?)

Tolkien Forever Fellowship of Southern California

A smial of The Tolkien Society located LA.

Clubs of the 2000s and Present-day

SCIFI

Fl. 1980s-present
(There is also a Florida club with this name.)

SCIFI, the Southern California Institute for Fan Interests, is a 501(c)(3) non-profit founded in the 1980s by Bruce Pelz and others. It ran the last three LA Worldcons, L.A.con II, L.A.con III and L.A.con IV and it announced the Los Angeles in 2026 Worldcon bid at SMOFcon in 2020. Its name, pronounced "skiffy," is a play on the dreaded sci-fi and a nod to its coiner, beloved LA BNF Forry Ackerman.

The organization has an odd membership structure with a large board (25 members) which wields complete power within the organization. The Board is elected annually. Because the Board is so large, it functions more like a club than a more traditional board of directors. SCIFI is unrelated to LASFS, though the two organizations have many members in common.

After LACon II, it was criticized for keeping too much of its profits and putting them to local uses, such as air-conditioning the LASFS Clubhouse, and subsequently became more active at distributing money and publicizing the fact.

It has also run the 1989 Westercon - Conosaurus, the 1994 Westercon - Conozoic, the 1999 NASFiC - Conucopia and the 2002 Westercon - Conagerie and several World Fantasy Conventions.

It sponsors the Rotsler Award and the Fan Gallery.

SCIFI Press, its small press, published only one book, A Wealth of Fable by Harry Warner, Jr., in 1992.

• Website.
• File 770 54, p. 9-11 (distribution of profits, etc.)

Orange County Science Fiction Club

Fl. 1986-present
OCSFC is a club located in Orange, CA. It meets the last Wednesday of every month except December. From 1986 to 1999 it published six issues a year of a clubzine, The Orange Pulp.

Website

Los Angeles Filkers Anonymous

Fl. ??-present
A filk club (also known as LAFA) which grew out of a filk mailing list maintained by Gary Anderson.

Members have included Lee Gold, Barry Gold, and Gary Anderson.

Website: https://conchord.org/lafaad.html

Time Meddlers of Los Angeles

The Time Meddlers of Los Angeles is one of America's largest and most visible Doctor Who fan clubs. Members gather each month to socialize and celebrate matters relating to the fictional Doctor Who time-traveling character.

Non-Local Clubs HQed in LA

The Fantasy Association

Fl. 1973-78.
An international club devoted to fantasy headquartered in Los Angeles. It was founded in 1973 or earlier and published its main fanzine Fantasiae and the more occiasional The Elidon Tree.

Mythopoeic Society

Fl. 1960s-present
The Mythopoeic Society is old enough and large enough to have its own page, which see.

American Rocket Society

Fl. pre-War through 1950s
The ARS seems to have been centered in LA and included enough fans to warrant an entry in all editions of Fancyclopedia -- see American Rocket Society for more.

College Clubs

CSULB Science Fiction Club

Fl. 1982
A club at California State University, Long Beach, in Long Beach, CA. (Is this different from the #Long Beach Science Fiction Association?)

Bruin Science Fiction Club

A club at UCLA in Los Angeles.

Unsorted-out

Details needed: Are these LA clubs?

• Moonrakers (arguably not a real club)
• The Outsiders
• Weird Tales Club (is this LA?)
• DREGS of L.A. Fandom