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'''The Scienceers''' was the first [[New York City]] local [[sf club]]. For many years [[fanhistorians]] considered it the [[First Club]] ever.  (The other contender, [[ISA|SCC/ISA]] was discounted because it was science- and correspondence-oriented.  But see the [[Eastbay Club]].)  
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[[File:Johnsonhouse.jpeg|thumb|'''[[Warren Fitzgerald]]’s building, 211 W. 122 St. in [[New York|Harlem]], where the Scienceers had their first meetings'''. ]]
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'''The Scienceers''' was the first [[New York City]] [[local]] [[sf club]]. For many years [[fanhistorians]] have considered it the [[First Club]] ever.  (The other contender, [[ISA|SCC/ISA]] is discounted because it was science- and [[correspondence]]-oriented.  But see the [[Eastbay Club]].)  
  
The Scienceers was founded December 11, 1929, a date some consider the beginning of [[fandom]]. Its first "official" meeting was January 4, 1930.  It held irregular meeting until April 26, 1930 when it reorganized and held regular weekly meetings until September 27, 1930 when it split into two factions.
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The Scienceers was founded December 11, 1929, a date some consider the beginning of [[fandom]]. Its first "official" meeting was January 4, 1930.  It held irregular meeting until April 26, 1930 when it reorganized and held regular weekly meetings until September 27, 1930, when it split into two factions.
  
It was a tight-knit local group that conducted regular meetings every week. The Scienceers claimed the same aims as the [[SCC]], but they were more inclined to discuss [[science-fiction]] stories in their meetings, as well as in their [[club]] [[clubzine|magazine]], ''[[The Planet]]'', edited by [[Allen Glasser]], which came a close second to the [[SCC]]'s ''[[The Comet]]'', and published six monthly issues between June and December of 1930. ([[Fanhistorians]] who don't count the [[SCC]] as a [[fanclub]] rate ''[[The Planet]]'' as the first [[fanzine]].)  
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It was a tight-knit local group that conducted regular meetings every week. The Scienceers claimed the same aims as the [[SCC]], but they were more inclined to discuss [[science-fiction]] stories in their meetings, as well as in their [[club]] [[clubzine|magazine]], ''[[The Planet]]'', edited by [[Allen Glasser]], which came a close second to the SCC's ''[[Cosmology|The Comet]]'', and published six monthly issues between June and December of 1930. ([[Fanhistorians]] who don't count the SCC as a [[fanclub]] rate ''[[The Planet]]'' as the first [[fanzine]].)  
  
The first president of The Scienceers, in whose home, an apartment in a brownstone at 211 W. 122nd St. in [[New York City|Harlem]], the initial club meetings were held, was [[Warren Fitzgerald]]. [[Warren Fitzgerald|Fitzgerald]] was one of the first African Americans to participate in [[fandom]]. Other founding members included [[Nathan Greenfeld]], [[Philip Rosenblatt]], [[Herbert Smith]], [[Julius Unger]] and [[Louis Wentzler]]. Fitzgerald was then about 30; all the other members were in their middle teens. The group formed as a result of their [[correspondence]] in [[Wonder Stories|Science Wonder Stories]].  
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The first [[president]] of The Scienceers, in whose home, an apartment in a brownstone at 211 W. 122nd St. in [[New York City|Harlem]], the initial club meetings were held, was [[Warren Fitzgerald]], then about 30. Fitzgerald may have been one of the first African Americans to participate in [[fandom]]. The other founding members, mostly [[Jewish]] teenagers, were [[Allen Glasser]], [[Nathan Greenfeld]], [[Philip Rosenblatt]], [[Herbert Smith]], [[Julius Unger]] and [[Louis Wentzler]]. The group formed as a result of their [[correspondence]] in ''[[Wonder Stories|Science Wonder Stories]]''.  
  
In late 1930 -- probably the fateful September 27th, mentioned above -- [[Hugo Gernsback]] hosted a special lecture by [[Wonder Stories]] staff and authors for the club, and some 35 club members attended. Alas, [[Gernsback]] failed to pay the rent for the meeting hall at the American Museum of Natural History, and The Scienceers were stuck with the bill. During the meeting, the editors pitched their rocketry club, which [[Warren Fitzgerald|Fitzgerald]] joined, dropping out of The Scienceers and leaving them to find a new meeting site.
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In late 1930 — probably the fateful September 27th, mentioned above — [[Hugo Gernsback]] hosted a special lecture by ''[[Wonder Stories]]'' staff and authors for the club, and some 35 club members attended. Alas, Gernsback failed to pay the rent for the meeting hall at the American Museum of Natural History, and The Scienceers were stuck with the bill. During the meeting, the editors pitched their rocketry club, which [[Warren Fitzgerald|Fitzgerald]] joined, dropping out of The Scienceers and leaving them to find a new meeting site.
  
The resulting furor -- the first [[fan feud]] -- split the club into two factions, both calling themselves "The Scienceers," a state that continued for nearly two years; the members had reunited by the start of 1933, but as an organization, the club had died on September 27, 1930 and the remnants fizzled out as its teen-aged members grew up and went on to other things.
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The resulting furor — the first [[fan feud]] — split the [[club]] into two factions, both calling themselves "The Scienceers," a state that continued for nearly two years; the members had reunited by the start of 1933, but as an [[organization]], the club had died on September 27, 1930, and the remnants fizzled out as its teen-aged members grew up and went on to other things.
  
More reading: [[Allen Glasser's History of The Scienceers]].
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'''More reading:'''
 
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*[[Allen Glasser's History of The Scienceers]].
Contributors: [[Dr. Gafia]], [[Allen Glasser]], [[Canfancyclopedia]], others.  
 
  
 
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A prehistoric [[fan]] organization which appeared in [[New York]], and when some of the members moved to the South-West, had branches in Texas and Oklahoma for a while.  
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A [[eofandom|prehistoric]] [[fan]] organization which appeared in [[New York]], and when some of the members moved to the South-West, had branches in [[Texas]] and [[Oklahoma]] for a while.  
 
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==The Scienceers Rock==
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A rock formation in [[New Jersey]] reportedly favored by club members.
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From ''[[Fantasy-News (Taurasi)]]'' 151, [https://fanac.org/fanzines/Fantasy_News/Fantasy_News0702.pdf August 3, 1941]:
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Although the [[Queens Science Fiction League]] suspends regular meetings during July and August, activities are not at a standstill. On June 29, [[Mel Hendricksen]], [[Chuck Hidley]], [[Len Grunbery]], [[Bob Thompson]], [[Will Sykora|Will]] and [[Fran Sykora]] met at the 125th St Ferry at 10 A.M. and pro­ceeded across to Fort Lee for a hike along the top of the Palisades to The Scienceers Rock, a peculiar formation just north of the George Washington Bridge and traditional camping spot of The Scienceers, oldtime [[stf]] club circa 1930.
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[[Will Sykora]], who had last accompanied old time [[stfans]] [[Al Glasser]] and [[Phil Rosen­blatt]] on a similar hike 7 years ago acted as “guide”. He only missed the rock by about three city blocks and the hikers only got a glimpse of it in the distance.
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In June 2021, [[Leah Zeldes Smith]] came across the above passage and challenged the [[Fanhistory (Facebook)|Facebook Fanhistory group]] with “a quest for intrepid New York [[fanhistorians]].” [[Jonathan Baker]] answered the call — finding the spot less physically but more accurately than Sykora. Starting with a 1925 topological map, Baker then consulted a 1912 Bergen County atlas, plotted the future site of the bridge and, finally, turned to Google Earth to get a satellite picture.
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Latest revision as of 07:17, 20 August 2023

Warren Fitzgerald’s building, 211 W. 122 St. in Harlem, where the Scienceers had their first meetings.

The Scienceers was the first New York City local sf club. For many years fanhistorians have considered it the First Club ever. (The other contender, SCC/ISA is discounted because it was science- and correspondence-oriented. But see the Eastbay Club.)

The Scienceers was founded December 11, 1929, a date some consider the beginning of fandom. Its first "official" meeting was January 4, 1930. It held irregular meeting until April 26, 1930 when it reorganized and held regular weekly meetings until September 27, 1930, when it split into two factions.

It was a tight-knit local group that conducted regular meetings every week. The Scienceers claimed the same aims as the SCC, but they were more inclined to discuss science-fiction stories in their meetings, as well as in their club magazine, The Planet, edited by Allen Glasser, which came a close second to the SCC's The Comet, and published six monthly issues between June and December of 1930. (Fanhistorians who don't count the SCC as a fanclub rate The Planet as the first fanzine.)

The first president of The Scienceers, in whose home, an apartment in a brownstone at 211 W. 122nd St. in Harlem, the initial club meetings were held, was Warren Fitzgerald, then about 30. Fitzgerald may have been one of the first African Americans to participate in fandom. The other founding members, mostly Jewish teenagers, were Allen Glasser, Nathan Greenfeld, Philip Rosenblatt, Herbert Smith, Julius Unger and Louis Wentzler. The group formed as a result of their correspondence in Science Wonder Stories.

In late 1930 — probably the fateful September 27th, mentioned above — Hugo Gernsback hosted a special lecture by Wonder Stories staff and authors for the club, and some 35 club members attended. Alas, Gernsback failed to pay the rent for the meeting hall at the American Museum of Natural History, and The Scienceers were stuck with the bill. During the meeting, the editors pitched their rocketry club, which Fitzgerald joined, dropping out of The Scienceers and leaving them to find a new meeting site.

The resulting furor — the first fan feud — split the club into two factions, both calling themselves "The Scienceers," a state that continued for nearly two years; the members had reunited by the start of 1933, but as an organization, the club had died on September 27, 1930, and the remnants fizzled out as its teen-aged members grew up and went on to other things.

More reading:

From Fancyclopedia 1, ca. 1944
A prehistoric fan organization which appeared in New York, and when some of the members moved to the South-West, had branches in Texas and Oklahoma for a while.

The Scienceers Rock[edit]

A rock formation in New Jersey reportedly favored by club members.

From Fantasy-News 151, August 3, 1941:

Although the Queens Science Fiction League suspends regular meetings during July and August, activities are not at a standstill. On June 29, Mel Hendricksen, Chuck Hidley, Len Grunbery, Bob Thompson, Will and Fran Sykora met at the 125th St Ferry at 10 A.M. and pro­ceeded across to Fort Lee for a hike along the top of the Palisades to The Scienceers Rock, a peculiar formation just north of the George Washington Bridge and traditional camping spot of The Scienceers, oldtime stf club circa 1930.

Will Sykora, who had last accompanied old time stfans Al Glasser and Phil Rosen­blatt on a similar hike 7 years ago acted as “guide”. He only missed the rock by about three city blocks and the hikers only got a glimpse of it in the distance.

In June 2021, Leah Zeldes Smith came across the above passage and challenged the Facebook Fanhistory group with “a quest for intrepid New York fanhistorians.” Jonathan Baker answered the call — finding the spot less physically but more accurately than Sykora. Starting with a 1925 topological map, Baker then consulted a 1912 Bergen County atlas, plotted the future site of the bridge and, finally, turned to Google Earth to get a satellite picture.




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