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'''Harold Gottliffe''' was a [[UK]] fan from [[Leeds]] active in the 1930s. He was a member of the Leeds branch of the [[Science Fiction League]] and attended the [[1937 Leeds Convention]]. He was also a member of the Manchester Interplanetary Society and the Leeds Rocketry Society,<ref>See [http://www.thespacelibrary.com/mediawiki/index.php/Manchester_Interplanetary_Society The Space Library].</ref>
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'''Harold Gottliffe''' was a fan from [[Leeds]] active in the 1930s. He was a member of the Leeds branch of the [[Science Fiction League]] and attended the [[1937 Leeds Convention]]. He was also a member of the Manchester Interplanetary Society and the Leeds Rocketry Society,<ref>See [http://www.thespacelibrary.com/mediawiki/index.php/Manchester_Interplanetary_Society The Space Library].</ref>
  
After the 1937 convention when [[Douglas W. F. Mayer]] proposed that the group secede from the [[Science Fiction League]], Gottliffe was one of the opponents along with [[J. Michael Rosenblum]], leading to a schism within the group. Gotliffe edited the ''[[Bulletin of the Leeds Science Fiction League]]'' for the SFL faction in early 1938, with Rosenblum's ''[[The Futurian]]'' replacing it as the group's official organ from June.
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After the 1937 convention when [[Douglas W. F. Mayer]] proposed that UK clubs secede from the SFL and create a British [[Science-Fiction Association]], Gottliffe was one of the opponents along with [[J. Michael Rosenblum]], leading to a schism within the Leeds group. Gotliffe edited the ''[[Bulletin of the Leeds Science Fiction League]]'' for the SFL faction in early 1938, with Rosenblum's ''[[The Futurian]]'' replacing it as the group's official organ from June. Details of this [[feud]] are given in ''[[Then]]'' or the specialised article linked from the [[Leeds]] entry.
  
After the outbreak of the [[Second World War]], Gottliffe, a qualified chemist, joined the Royal Army Medical Corps.<ref>[[Ron Holmes]] (who joined RAMC as well) in ''[[Science-Fantasy Review War Digest]]'' #9, September 1940: "[[Les Johnson]] is now in uniform and looks great in it. I only hope I look as well, though after seeing Harry Gottliffe in his RAMC uniform - I guess I’ll look like a member of the Salvation Army."</ref> He served on a hospital ship which was bombed in [[Norway]]<ref>See ''[[Science-Fantasy Review's War Digest]]'' 7, July 1940: "A week or two ago Harry Gottliffe, prominent Leeds fan, now senior Sergeant in the R.A.M.C arrived in [[Liverpool]] from Norway and his first thought was to call at the editorial address. He was duly shown round the Liverpool fans. [[Ted Carnell]], of London, was also in this city at the same time and the two met for a while, first time in four years. Unfortunately next day HG sailed for the East."</ref> and on another that was sunk off Crete, and later attached to a prisoner-of-war camp in Palestine.<ref>''[[Futurian War Digest]]'' 19, January 1942: "More news from the middle East comes fron ex-Leeds SFL director, Harold Gottliffe, RAMC sergeant. In his first letter for 11 months Harold says that he wants to he kept in touch with fandom and also manages to convey the information that he has left his Hospital Ship. Local rumour has it that he is in Palestine, on the staff of a P.O.W. camp."</ref> He returned to Leeds in December 1944 with an intention of resuming [[fanac]] once more, and was noted as an attendee of the New Year's Eve's [[Norcon II (UK)]] in one account but not in the others so it's unclear if he was actually there. He married in March 1945 and was last heard of in the late 1950s running a chemists shop in [[London]].  
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After the outbreak of the [[Second World War]], Gottliffe, a qualified chemist (and possibly a pacifist), joined the Royal Army Medical Corps. Rosenblum later wrote:
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… within one month there was no Leeds group. Of the four executives […] one joined the RAMC, being a qualified chemist, and three weeks later was the youngest sergeant at his depot by 12 years<ref>Quoted in ''[[Then]]'', but no exact source found; it also says Holmes was "called up early in 1940". <br> Liverpudlian [[Ron Holmes]] (who joined RAMC later too) wrote in ''[[Science-Fantasy Review War Digest]]'' #9, September 1940: "[[Les Johnson]] is now in uniform and looks great in it. I only hope I look as well, though after seeing Harry Gottliffe in his RAMC uniform - I guess I’ll look like a member of the Salvation Army."</ref>
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Gottliffe served on a hospital ship which was bombed in [[Norway]]<ref>See also ''[[Science-Fantasy Review's War Digest]]'' 7, July 1940: "A week or two ago Harry Gottliffe, prominent Leeds fan, now senior Sergeant in the R.A.M.C arrived in [[Liverpool]] from Norway and his first thought was to call at the editorial address. He was duly shown round the Liverpool fans. [[Ted Carnell]], of London, was also in this city at the same time and the two met for a while, first time in four years. Unfortunately next day HG sailed for the East."</ref> and on another that was sunk off Crete, and later attached to a prisoner-of-war camp in Palestine.<ref>''[[Futurian War Digest]]'' 19, January 1942: "More news from the middle East comes fron ex-Leeds SFL director, Harold Gottliffe, RAMC sergeant. In his first letter for 11 months Harold says that he wants to be kept in touch with fandom and also manages to convey the information that he has left his Hospital Ship. Local rumour has it that he is in Palestine, on the staff of a P.O.W. camp."</ref> He returned to Leeds in December 1944 with an intention of resuming [[fanac]] once more, but this was not to be. He was noted as an attendee of the New Year's Eve's [[Norcon II (UK)]] in one account but not in the others so it's unclear if he was actually there. He married in March 1945 and quickly [[gafia]]ted, last heard of in the late 1950s running a chemists shop in Westminster, [[London]].
  
 
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Harold Gottliffe was a fan from Leeds active in the 1930s. He was a member of the Leeds branch of the Science Fiction League and attended the 1937 Leeds Convention. He was also a member of the Manchester Interplanetary Society and the Leeds Rocketry Society,[1]

After the 1937 convention when Douglas W. F. Mayer proposed that UK clubs secede from the SFL and create a British Science-Fiction Association, Gottliffe was one of the opponents along with J. Michael Rosenblum, leading to a schism within the Leeds group. Gotliffe edited the Bulletin of the Leeds Science Fiction League for the SFL faction in early 1938, with Rosenblum's The Futurian replacing it as the group's official organ from June. Details of this feud are given in Then or the specialised article linked from the Leeds entry.

After the outbreak of the Second World War, Gottliffe, a qualified chemist (and possibly a pacifist), joined the Royal Army Medical Corps. Rosenblum later wrote:

… within one month there was no Leeds group. Of the four executives […] one joined the RAMC, being a qualified chemist, and three weeks later was the youngest sergeant at his depot by 12 years[2]

Gottliffe served on a hospital ship which was bombed in Norway[3] and on another that was sunk off Crete, and later attached to a prisoner-of-war camp in Palestine.[4] He returned to Leeds in December 1944 with an intention of resuming fanac once more, but this was not to be. He was noted as an attendee of the New Year's Eve's Norcon II in one account but not in the others so it's unclear if he was actually there. He married in March 1945 and quickly gafiated, last heard of in the late 1950s running a chemists shop in Westminster, London.

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  1. See The Space Library.
  2. Quoted in Then, but no exact source found; it also says Holmes was "called up early in 1940".
    Liverpudlian Ron Holmes (who joined RAMC later too) wrote in Science-Fantasy Review War Digest #9, September 1940: "Les Johnson is now in uniform and looks great in it. I only hope I look as well, though after seeing Harry Gottliffe in his RAMC uniform - I guess I’ll look like a member of the Salvation Army."
  3. See also Science-Fantasy Review's War Digest 7, July 1940: "A week or two ago Harry Gottliffe, prominent Leeds fan, now senior Sergeant in the R.A.M.C arrived in Liverpool from Norway and his first thought was to call at the editorial address. He was duly shown round the Liverpool fans. Ted Carnell, of London, was also in this city at the same time and the two met for a while, first time in four years. Unfortunately next day HG sailed for the East."
  4. Futurian War Digest 19, January 1942: "More news from the middle East comes fron ex-Leeds SFL director, Harold Gottliffe, RAMC sergeant. In his first letter for 11 months Harold says that he wants to be kept in touch with fandom and also manages to convey the information that he has left his Hospital Ship. Local rumour has it that he is in Palestine, on the staff of a P.O.W. camp."