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| − | {{fancy2|text= | + | Sex in [[fandom]] today is not notably different than in the [[macrocosm]]. Do not make assumptions and be assiduous about consent. |
| − | The great majority of [[fans]] are male, and it has been asserted that females cannot be the psychological type of the [[SF]] [[fan]], tho there are many [[femmefans]] to refute this. In addition there are sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc, of male | + | |
| + | See also: [[Eroticism]], [[Nudity]], [[Fans Are Above Sex]], [[Fully Certified Sex Fiends]], [[Langdon Chart]], [[Kteic]], [[Rosebud]], [[Apa-69]], [[Intercourse]], [[PAPA]]. | ||
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| + | Tho hurled by [[John W. Campbell|Campbell]]'s execration<br>From its original elevation<br>It still maintains a [[stfnal]] station<br>As a sensitive [[fannish]] recreation. | ||
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| + | The great majority of [[fans]] are male,<ref>The demographics of [[fan]] gender have changed, with greater numbers of women and nonbinary fans, although there have always been more of both than generally acknowledged, as [[René Walling]]’s research into [https://www.adastrasf.com/worldcon-membership-demographics-1939-1960/ early Worldcon membership data] shows and the 2022 documentary ''Casa Susanna'' highlights in its revelations about [[Donna Wollheim]].</ref> and it has been asserted that females cannot be the psychological type of the [[SF]] [[fan]], tho there are many [[femmefans]] to refute this. In addition there are sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc, of male fans who tag along at [[fan gatherings]], make some appearance in the [[fanzines]], and assist in dirty work like [[mimeoing]]. | ||
| − | It is generally believed that [[Joe Fann]] is later than average in associating with the other sex; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in [[fan]] discussions, tho there had been some isolated eroticism earlier among the [[Futurians]], [[Moonrakers]], etc. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on fan-meets-femme have appeared frequently in conversation and writing, and among the more mature [[Britishers]] have sometimes reached shockin' depths. | + | It is generally believed that [[Joe Fann]] is later than average in associating with the other sex; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in [[fan]] discussions, tho there had been some isolated [[eroticism]] earlier among the [[Futurians]], [[Moonrakers]], etc. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on [[fan]]-meets-[[femmefan|femme]] have appeared frequently in conversation and [[writing]], and among the more mature [[Britishers]] have sometimes reached shockin' depths. |
| − | Whether | + | Whether fans are actually more or less promiscuous than other people is an unsettled point, tho from the way they talk you'd think there'd be no doubt about it. Outstanding exponents of an affirmative attitude are [[Insurgents]] and [[Sexocrats]] (followers, the latter, of a [[philosophy]] founded 1949 by [[Ray Nelson]]; its tenets are about what you'd expect). Frequently quoted is [[John W. Campbell, Jr.]]'s dictum, '''Sex and Science Fiction Don't Mix''' -- tho it's rarely given in its proper sense; [[John W. Campbell|JWC]] merely meant that [[stf]] runs distinctly less to pornography than, say, detective or Western [[pulp]]work.<ref>Today, of course, there are several sub-genres of [[stfnal]] porn, ranging from softcore [[paranormal]] romance to [[Chuck Tingle]]’s gay dinosaur porn, [[John Norman]]’s sadistic Gor series and much more.</ref> A few research projects like [[Bob Tucker]]'s [[Little Kinsey Report]] and the [[Liverpool Group]]'s [[Space Diversions|Sex-and-Sadism symposium]] appear to contradict [[Campbell]] as his [[gagline]] is usually interpreted. |
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| − | The great majority of [[fans]] are males. It has been asserted that a female cannot be the psychological type of the [[s-f fan]], but there are several dyed-in-the-wool [[fannes]] to refute this. In addition, there are a lot of sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc. of the he- | + | The great majority of [[fans]] are males. It has been asserted that a female cannot be the psychological type of the [[s-f fan]], but there are several dyed-in-the-wool [[fannes]] to refute this. In addition, there are a lot of sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc. of the [[fanboys|he-fans]], who tag along at [[fan gatherings]], make some appearance in the [[fanzines]], and assist in dirty work such as [[mimeoing]]. |
| − | It is generally believed that [[Joe Fann]] is considerably later than average in associating with girls; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in [[fan]] discussions, tho there had been some isolated eroticism earlier, especially among the [[Futurians]] and the [[Moonrakers]]. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on [[fan]]-meets-[[femme]] have appeared frequently in conversation and writing, and among the more "mature" | + | It is generally believed that [[Joe Fann]] is considerably later than average in associating with girls; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in [[fan]] discussions, tho there had been some isolated [[eroticism]] earlier, especially among the [[Futurians]] and the [[Moonrakers]]. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on [[fan]]-meets-[[femme]] have appeared frequently in conversation and [[writing]], and among the more "mature" [[British]]ers have sometimes reached shocking depths. In [[America]], a minority has been vociferously lewd, and some shoddy events have resulted from infidelity of married [[scientifictionists]]. |
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| + | *[https://www.cfg.org/history/cinvention/mb/delrey.htm “Sex and Science Fiction”], 1949 [[Cinvention]] speech by [[Lester del Rey]]. | ||
| + | * [https://www.jophan.org/mimosa/m10/kyle.htm “Sex in Fandom”] by [[David Kyle]]. | ||
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Latest revision as of 05:55, 18 March 2024
Sex in fandom today is not notably different than in the macrocosm. Do not make assumptions and be assiduous about consent.
See also: Eroticism, Nudity, Fans Are Above Sex, Fully Certified Sex Fiends, Langdon Chart, Kteic, Rosebud, Apa-69, Intercourse, PAPA.
| From Fancyclopedia 2, ca. 1959 |
| Tho hurled by Campbell's execration From its original elevation It still maintains a stfnal station As a sensitive fannish recreation.
It is generally believed that Joe Fann is later than average in associating with the other sex; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in fan discussions, tho there had been some isolated eroticism earlier among the Futurians, Moonrakers, etc. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on fan-meets-femme have appeared frequently in conversation and writing, and among the more mature Britishers have sometimes reached shockin' depths. Whether fans are actually more or less promiscuous than other people is an unsettled point, tho from the way they talk you'd think there'd be no doubt about it. Outstanding exponents of an affirmative attitude are Insurgents and Sexocrats (followers, the latter, of a philosophy founded 1949 by Ray Nelson; its tenets are about what you'd expect). Frequently quoted is John W. Campbell, Jr.'s dictum, Sex and Science Fiction Don't Mix -- tho it's rarely given in its proper sense; JWC merely meant that stf runs distinctly less to pornography than, say, detective or Western pulpwork.[2] A few research projects like Bob Tucker's Little Kinsey Report and the Liverpool Group's Sex-and-Sadism symposium appear to contradict Campbell as his gagline is usually interpreted. |
| From Fancyclopedia 1, ca. 1944 |
| The great majority of fans are males. It has been asserted that a female cannot be the psychological type of the s-f fan, but there are several dyed-in-the-wool fannes to refute this. In addition, there are a lot of sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc. of the he-fans, who tag along at fan gatherings, make some appearance in the fanzines, and assist in dirty work such as mimeoing.
It is generally believed that Joe Fann is considerably later than average in associating with girls; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in fan discussions, tho there had been some isolated eroticism earlier, especially among the Futurians and the Moonrakers. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on fan-meets-femme have appeared frequently in conversation and writing, and among the more "mature" Britishers have sometimes reached shocking depths. In America, a minority has been vociferously lewd, and some shoddy events have resulted from infidelity of married scientifictionists. |
- “Sex and Science Fiction”, 1949 Cinvention speech by Lester del Rey.
- “Sex in Fandom” by David Kyle.
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- ↑ The demographics of fan gender have changed, with greater numbers of women and nonbinary fans, although there have always been more of both than generally acknowledged, as René Walling’s research into early Worldcon membership data shows and the 2022 documentary Casa Susanna highlights in its revelations about Donna Wollheim.
- ↑ Today, of course, there are several sub-genres of stfnal porn, ranging from softcore paranormal romance to Chuck Tingle’s gay dinosaur porn, John Norman’s sadistic Gor series and much more.
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