Categories

This is a list of the categories we have on Fancyclopedia

Master: Award, Bid, Bidding, Club, Conrunning, Convention, Fancast, Fanfund, Fanhistory, Fanspeak, Group, Locale, Misc, Penname, Person, Publication, Publishing, Publisher, Show, Store, Venue, Website, None

Region: Asia, Australia, Canada, Europe, Ireland, NZ, UK, US, World

Sub-categories: Fan, Pro, Mundane, Conseries, Onetimecon, APA, Fanzine, Apazine, Newszine, Prozine, Semiprozine, Newsletter, Fanthology, Book, Bibliography

Descriptive: Abomination, Artist, Catchphrase, Fancy1, Fancy2, Feud, Filk, First fandom, Food, Hoax, Initialism, Media, Obsolete, Obscure fact, Tolkien

Administrative: Admin, mlo, jrb, Nofiles, Nodates, Haswebsite, Fixme, Details, Redirect, Wikidot, Condex, Multiple, Choice

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Master Categories

Pages must be in one of these master categories. This is done automatically if the {{person}} etc template is added.

• Admin - for internal organisation of the site, templates etc
• Award - Awards, but only apply to the key pages for award series
• Bid - A bid for a convention
• Bidding - Convention bidding races
• Club - clubs and writing groups and writing workshops
• Conrunning - The mechanics of running a convention, famous incidents
• Convention - Conventions, festivals etc.
• Fancast - Spoken fan publication
• Fanfund - Fanfunds
• Fanhistory - Articles about what fandom is like, including reminiscence.
• Fanspeak - fannish words and concepts. Some overlap with publishing and conrunning.
• Group - for closed groups, like filk groups, small teams
• Locale - A geographical place, typically a city
• Penname, Nickname - Former as authors, latter as people [mlo: Is this a useful distinction? It's clear enough, but is it useful?] Pennames for pros should be invisible redirects. Nicknames for fans have some interest, but again would better be part of the fan's main page. So I think its clutter and would remove it. I now think they should be redirects to a bolded mention in an person's actual page. JRB
• Person
• Publication - A hidden category for all publications above.
• Publisher - Companies, not people. Both large concerns and small presses
• Publishing - The mechanics of producing books, fanzines etc, cf conrunning for cons.
• Show - Fannish musicals, plays, films etc
• Store - Place to buy things, bricks and mortar or online
• Venue - Building that holds cons, or a slan shack house.
• Website - websites
• Misc - Anything else, as all pages should have a category
• None - Pages the admins don't want to have a category, generally because we don't want to index them

Sub-Categories

Anything that has a location should be one of UK, Ireland, Europe, NZ, Australia, Canada, Asia, US, World

People should be in at least one of these 3 categories

• Fan - Someone with an amateur interest in fandom. They pay to do it
• Pro - Someone with a professional interest. Author, publisher, actor, artist, illustrator, scientist, journalist, academic etc. They get paid to do it.
• Mundane - Someone outside of the SF community, like a scientist or actor (scientists who are fans do not get the Mundane category also)

Conventions should be one of

• Conseries - The master page for a convention series
• Onetimecon - For conventions that only ran once

and optionally Worldcon, Eastercon, Eurocon, Canvention, Westercon - For special major conventions, Worldcon, Eastercon, Westercon, Eurocon, Canvention. We need something for NZ and Australia. [mlo: I'd be inclined to limit this to Eastercon, Westercon and Worldcon as these are far more influential than the others. There are a *lot* of national conventions and we have to draw a line somewhere. I'd not include NASFiC, either.). It is a matter of perspective, I think Aussies, New Zelanders and Canadians are proud of their natcons. JRB

• Condex A hidden category for conventions worth indexing from other entries. Includes conseries, onetimecon, worldcon, eastercon, eurocon, canvention, westercon, and other cons on a whim. Thinking of removing this. JRB

Publications should be one of

• APA - APA
• Fanzine, Apazine, Newszine, Prozine, Semiprozine, Newsletter, Fanthology - Different sorts of fan publication, fanzine, apazine, newszine, prozine, semiprozine, newsletter, fanthology
• Book - A notable book, series of books, song book, or a short story, length is not an issue, format is.
• Bibliography - A list of books, fanzines, prozines, etc.

Descriptive categories

People can also be Artist - Anyone who produces art, including video

All pages can be one of these

• Abomination - It's traditional for a few editorial remarks to creep in
• Catchphrase - It used to be a proud and lonely thing to be a fan.
• Fancy1, fancy2 - containing content from Fancyclopedia 1 or Fancyclopedia 2
• Feud - Feuds
• Filk - Filk singing, includes people, conventions, groups, clubs
• First Fandom - First Fandom
• Food - food and drink
• Hoax - Hoaxes
• Initialism - Things referred to by their initials
• Media - non-written fandoms, tv, film, anime etc.
• Obscure Fact - ? [mlo: This is in the category of "it seemed like a good idea at the time". The idea was to tag things people just browsing might find amusing. We should discuss whether it retains enough value.]
• Obsolete - ? [mlo: I think this may still be useful. It designates usages, mainly, which are obsolete. Let's discuss, as it might be as useful turned into something like Obsolete at the top of the definition.]
• Tolkien - people, clubs, conventions about that

Admin

• Details Hidden category for high levels of detail, like 1971 TAFF Results or Best Novel Hugo, to hide pages from Category lists
• Hugos - Pages about the Hugos, categories, year summaries, but not atBest Novel Hugo level
• Fixme
• Admin
• Mlo,Jrb - For Mark and John to fix
• Nodates,Nofiles,Haswebsite - omissions in templates
• Redirect,Wikidot - redirections, the latter to handle old Wikidot names
• Condex, List - Delete?
• Multiple, Choice - Pages with multiple entries

Changes made

• Get rid of ted tag. JRB [mlo: agree]
• The statuette, author, bibliographer, historian, and fantasy tags have very few members, and should go. JRB [mlo: agree]
• Merge perzine tag into fanzine. JRB [mlo: agree. I wonder if clubzine is a distinction worth keeping?]
• Remove tag email. JRB [mlo: agree]
• collector - Collector [mlo: drop]
• Remove editor tag, splitting into fan or pro. Too many people edit as part of other things. JRB [mlo: agreed]
• Get rid of tag audio, it has 4 members, and no-one thinks to use it. JRB [mlo: agree]
• lovecraft - [mlo: I'm not sure there's enough Lovecraft to warrant it]. JRB delete it
• statuette - Sculpture [mlo: really? Are there ever going to be enough of them? Are they interesting enough?] Deleted. JRB
• audio - [mlo: what is this? Is there enough to be worth keeping given that we have fancast?]. Deleted JRB
• Publisher tag removed from people, publisher link added if important. JRB
• Add conrunning tag for articles about how conventions are organised, and memories on how they went. Reserve the convention tag for the event itself. JRB.

Discussion

JRB for ideas liked by John Bray, MLO by Mark Olsen

• New tags need approval from Mark. JRB
• I wonder if clubzine is a distinction worth keeping MLO. Possibly JRB [mlo: Let's keep it for now then.]
• Merge semiprozine into prozine, they are both sold, even if one loses money! JRB [mlo: I'm not sure. There are so damn many of the semiprozines.]
• Writing courses like Clarion should be conventions, not clubs. JRB [mlo: They're repeated annually with different people. Neither tag is perfect, but they "feel" a bit more like a convention.]
• For something in a category that's too common to be in the main index, add a leading underscore. So while Boskone is a 'convention', Boskone 14 is a '_convention', Hugo is an 'award', 2008 Best Novel Hugo is an '_award'. JRB [mlo: I see a good case for this, but let's discuss it a bit more first. What do we do when we have something like most Eastercons that ought to have both "convention" and "_convention"?] Eastercons should have tag eastercon and not convention, can we think of other examples where Con X is particularly important? JRB
• Add _admin tags to all redirection pages using "module redirection", or "(Did you mean ...". JRB [mlo: let's discuss -- I don't understand the implications of this]
• Add _admin tags to year pages. JRB [mlo: let's discuss -- I don't understand the implications of this]
• Add a misc tag, just so every page has a tag, and we can check for omissions. JRB [mlo: let's discuss -- I don't understand the implications of this]
• Get rid of abomination and obscure_fact tags. JRB [mlo: I'd like to keep abomination ]
• Remove catchphrase tag, merge into fanspeak. JRB [mlo: let's discuss -- I'd like to look at the two categories in detail first]
• Remove tag obsolete. JRB [mlo: let's discuss -- I'd like to look at the category in detail first]
• Remove tag websites, everything has a website. JRB [mlo: The idea was to tag pages specifically about websites. Let's review]
• Add tag project, for all those fannish projects to archive, catalogue change the world etc. Would cover many websites like SF Encyclopedia etc, so could take over from website tag. JRB [mlo: ??]
• Work on pages with multiple meanings so we have no pages with incompatible tags merely because they share the same name. JRB [mlo: let's discuss -- I don't understand the implications of this]
• Now tag collector has gone replace with backlinks from the Collector article. [mlo: agree.]

This could apply to all sorts of roles, editor, historian etc. JRB [mlo: let's discuss -- I don't understand the implications of this, though it sounds sensible]

• Publisher is currently half companies, half people. The latter is an anomalous role given we don't have editor etc. We could change publisher to press to be the counterpart to small_press, but its not a common term. It might be easiest to just ensure publisher is in people's descriptions, and have a backlink section as we do for editor, and not tag people. publishing_house/publisher is an alternative. JRB [mlo: I no longer think it makes sense for it to be a person -- there are far too many fanzines publishers! The question then becomes, does the remaining use warrant keeping it at all?]. I think we should rename small_press tag to be publisher, and keep the mainstream ones in that. They'd be overwhelmed, but that's good, and avoids our assessment. Get Thomas's view. JRB [thomas: tagging small presses with 'publisher' rather than 'small_press' makes sense to me. As for people, there is the borderline case of Graham Stone having published books as Graham Stone.][thomas: another alternative is imprint. It doesn't have quite the same meaning. A publisher may have multiple imprints. But users may tend to know publishers by their imprints rather than their business names (e.g., "Escape Publishing" rather than "Harlequin Australia", and "Tor" rather than "Tom Doherty Associates").]
• Change the novelty tags (food, catchphrase, nickname, obscure fact etc) into standalone pages prominent from the landing page. Obviously it would be nicer to have someone write on the history of nicknames, but we could just have the automatic backlist from a mention of the term. Not convinced that people finding one obscure fact would be hopping to others. JRB
• Either get rid of newszine (3 entries) and newsletter or populate them. Convention newsletters should really be folded into the con entries, the rest are just fanzines, which need to just reference newszine their text. JRB votes populate newsletter with convention newsletters, and make newszines fanzines.