Difference between revisions of "Talk:Claude Degler"
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I'm not an expert in genealogical research, but would his wife's death certificate say "widowed" if there was some possibility they had gotten divorced? [[User:Ben Ostrowsky|Ben Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 09:13, 11 February 2022 (PST) | I'm not an expert in genealogical research, but would his wife's death certificate say "widowed" if there was some possibility they had gotten divorced? [[User:Ben Ostrowsky|Ben Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 09:13, 11 February 2022 (PST) | ||
| − | It is not clear how long Alta Doris and Claude remained married, but SOMETIMES divorced people will say they're widowed - newspaper obits are not independently researched.[[User:LaurieMann|LaurieMann]] ([[User talk:LaurieMann|talk]]) 13:18, 21 September 2022 (PDT) | + | |
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| + | :It is not clear how long Alta Doris and Claude remained married, but SOMETIMES divorced people will say they're widowed - newspaper obits are not independently researched.[[User:LaurieMann|LaurieMann]] ([[User talk:LaurieMann|talk]]) 13:18, 21 September 2022 (PDT) | ||
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The Indianapolis city directories for 1951 and 1956 list Doris Degler as the widow of Claude, although clearly that was not the literal truth. And in the 1950 census she was living with her parents, although married. Perhaps they never divorced ''per se'', but at least in the 1950s she appears to have considered him gone. | The Indianapolis city directories for 1951 and 1956 list Doris Degler as the widow of Claude, although clearly that was not the literal truth. And in the 1950 census she was living with her parents, although married. Perhaps they never divorced ''per se'', but at least in the 1950s she appears to have considered him gone. | ||
[[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 12:25, 21 September 2022 (PDT) | [[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 12:25, 21 September 2022 (PDT) | ||
| − | Thanks for your note on the 1950 census! I found Alta Doris in the 1950 census but not Claude (at least, not the name Claude Degler). Maybe they had an on and off marriage.[[User:LaurieMann|LaurieMann]] ([[User talk:LaurieMann|talk]]) 13:18, 21 September 2022 (PDT) | + | |
| + | :Thanks for your note on the 1950 census! I found Alta Doris in the 1950 census but not Claude (at least, not the name Claude Degler). Maybe they had an on and off marriage.[[User:LaurieMann|LaurieMann]] ([[User talk:LaurieMann|talk]]) 13:18, 21 September 2022 (PDT) | ||
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I think I may have found a record of his death. The birthdate matches exactly; the mother's name matches exactly; the father's name matches partially ("Howard L." is correct); the location in an impoverished neighborhood of Indianapolis is plausible. — [[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 10:32, 4 April 2023 (PDT) | I think I may have found a record of his death. The birthdate matches exactly; the mother's name matches exactly; the father's name matches partially ("Howard L." is correct); the location in an impoverished neighborhood of Indianapolis is plausible. — [[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 10:32, 4 April 2023 (PDT) | ||
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| + | : John Paul Christman is a known pseudonym! Well done! | ||
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| + | :So, was his father prone to name changing, too? | ||
| + | :—[[User:Leah Zeldes Smith|Leah Zeldes Smith]] ([[User talk:Leah Zeldes Smith|talk]]) 12:35, 4 April 2023 (PDT) | ||
Revision as of 12:35, 4 April 2023
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Determining a person's status[edit]
Spent a few hours in early 2021 trying to determine if Claude was dead or alive. As he'd be over 100, it really looks unlikely.
A few hours of searching on ancestry.com and on the Internet in general didn't solve this question. The possibilities for Degler seem to be
- Degler died a long time ago
- He changed his name
Divorce and "widowed"[edit]
I'm not an expert in genealogical research, but would his wife's death certificate say "widowed" if there was some possibility they had gotten divorced? Ben Ostrowsky (talk) 09:13, 11 February 2022 (PST)
- It is not clear how long Alta Doris and Claude remained married, but SOMETIMES divorced people will say they're widowed - newspaper obits are not independently researched.LaurieMann (talk) 13:18, 21 September 2022 (PDT)
Possibly separated around 1950[edit]
The Indianapolis city directories for 1951 and 1956 list Doris Degler as the widow of Claude, although clearly that was not the literal truth. And in the 1950 census she was living with her parents, although married. Perhaps they never divorced per se, but at least in the 1950s she appears to have considered him gone. Bee Ostrowsky (talk) 12:25, 21 September 2022 (PDT)
- Thanks for your note on the 1950 census! I found Alta Doris in the 1950 census but not Claude (at least, not the name Claude Degler). Maybe they had an on and off marriage.LaurieMann (talk) 13:18, 21 September 2022 (PDT)
NUMIDENT file[edit]
I think I may have found a record of his death. The birthdate matches exactly; the mother's name matches exactly; the father's name matches partially ("Howard L." is correct); the location in an impoverished neighborhood of Indianapolis is plausible. — Bee Ostrowsky (talk) 10:32, 4 April 2023 (PDT)
- John Paul Christman is a known pseudonym! Well done!
- So, was his father prone to name changing, too?
- —Leah Zeldes Smith (talk) 12:35, 4 April 2023 (PDT)
