Difference between revisions of "Talk:Jean Carrol"
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:Not sure that fans’ misspellings are relevant. They are mostly carelessness. I think we should consider that Carrol wasn’t her birth name, but either a married name or a Fannish pseudonym. (It has a feel of not-real-name, somehow.) If there was a Mr. Carrol (whether that was his name or not), he doesn’t seem to be in the fannish picture — either gone by then or a mundane who didn’t hang out. | :Not sure that fans’ misspellings are relevant. They are mostly carelessness. I think we should consider that Carrol wasn’t her birth name, but either a married name or a Fannish pseudonym. (It has a feel of not-real-name, somehow.) If there was a Mr. Carrol (whether that was his name or not), he doesn’t seem to be in the fannish picture — either gone by then or a mundane who didn’t hang out. | ||
:[[User:Leah Zeldes Smith|—Leah Zeldes Smith]] ([[User talk:Leah Zeldes Smith|talk]]) 10:09, 2 May 2023 (PDT) | :[[User:Leah Zeldes Smith|—Leah Zeldes Smith]] ([[User talk:Leah Zeldes Smith|talk]]) 10:09, 2 May 2023 (PDT) | ||
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+ | ::The note about spellings was mostly a note to myself; I was ignoring useful material by being a stickler. | ||
+ | ::I think you're right about the mailing addresses not being her home address. 1658 Broadway also appears to have been a place of business. Good heavens, she could have lived anywhere—even ''Jersey!'' | ||
+ | ::[[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 10:30, 2 May 2023 (PDT) |
Revision as of 09:30, 2 May 2023
Evidence[edit]
Her first appearance in the N3F member list is August 1950, when her address was given as 233 W. 42nd St., Room 303, N.Y. 18, N.Y. However, that address does not seem to have had any residents in the census on April 1 of that year.
In Little Corpuscle 3 (Winter 1952), her mailing address is given as 1658 Broadway, Rm 406, N.Y. 19, N.Y.
She wrote to G2 from 117 West 46th St., New York 36, NY, saying "I'm engaged to be married to Theodore Engel"; the letter was published in March 1963, although an editorial comment in an issue a month earlier showed that this news had already been known then.
While she spelled her name Carrol, other sources have also misspelled it as Carroll with two Ls.
As Leah Zeldes Smith noted, she was wearing rings on her left ring finger in a 1958 photo, so she may have been married before Ted Engel.
— Bee Ostrowsky (talk) 09:35, 2 May 2023 (PDT)
- Thoughts: Could the 1950 address have been a workplace or mail drop?
- Not sure that fans’ misspellings are relevant. They are mostly carelessness. I think we should consider that Carrol wasn’t her birth name, but either a married name or a Fannish pseudonym. (It has a feel of not-real-name, somehow.) If there was a Mr. Carrol (whether that was his name or not), he doesn’t seem to be in the fannish picture — either gone by then or a mundane who didn’t hang out.
- —Leah Zeldes Smith (talk) 10:09, 2 May 2023 (PDT)
- The note about spellings was mostly a note to myself; I was ignoring useful material by being a stickler.
- I think you're right about the mailing addresses not being her home address. 1658 Broadway also appears to have been a place of business. Good heavens, she could have lived anywhere—even Jersey!
- Bee Ostrowsky (talk) 10:30, 2 May 2023 (PDT)