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and the link will take you to the important early fan, Jack Speer, that you expected.  But what if there are multiple things with the same name? (E.g., "Minicon" is the name of at least six different things.)
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and the link will take you to the important early fan, Jack Speer, that you expected.  But what if there are multiple things with the same name? (E.g., "Minicon" is the name of at least five different things.)
  
 
Here's how we deal with that problem:
 
Here's how we deal with that problem:
  
 
====Naming Pages====
 
====Naming Pages====
First, each item gets its own page. The page names following the format '''name''' (''modifier'''). The name is just the unadorned name. The modifier follows a fixed set of choices depending on what we're dealing with. (It's important for the modifier to be standardized, so that people can guess the right one the first time.)
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First, each item gets its own page (except [[Clashing Names#Grouped Things|Grouped Things]]). The page names following the format '''name''' (''modifier''). The name is just the unadorned name. The modifier follows a fixed set of choices depending on what we're dealing with. (It's important for the modifier to be standardized, so that people can guess the right one the first time.)
  
For things which are geographical (Conventions, Clubs, Locales, etc.) use the country or, for the US, the state.  E.g., 'Unicon (UK)', 'Unicon (Australia)', 'Unicon (MD)'.
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For things which are geographical (Prozines, Conventions, Clubs, Locales, etc.) use the country or, for the US, the state.  E.g., 'Unicon (UK)', 'Unicon (Australia)', 'Unicon (MD)'.
  
For a fanzine or apazine, use the last name of the primary editor. For a convention pub, use the convention name.  E.g., 'BEM (Ashworth)', 'BEM ('Kalas)'
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For a fanzine or apazine, use the last name of the primary editor. For a prozine, semiprozine, convention or a club use the area E.g., 'BEM (Ashworth)', 'BEM (Australia)', 'BEM (MA)'
  
====Disambiguation Pages====
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Then page BEM (Ashworth) might start
The unadorned name (just plain "Unicon") points to a disambiguation page, like this:
 
 
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(Did you mean [[Unicon (UK)|British]], [[Unicon (Australia)|Australian]], [[Unicon (MD)|Maryland]], [[Unicon (CA)|Californian]], [[Unicon (KC)|Kansas City]] or [[Unicon (FL)|Florida]] conventions of that name?)
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{{DISPLAYTITLE:BEM}}
 
 
Or do you know of yet another one!
 
{{choice}}
 
 
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The DISPLAYTITLE is what appears at the top of the page and in links, so you just refer to <nowiki>[[BEM (Ashworth)]]</nowiki> and it will show BEM on the page.
  
A disambiguation page will show all the incoming links to that page. We would like to correct all of the links to the disambiguation page to link directly to the proper destination page.  This needs to be done by hand.
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In general, we use the unadorned name for whichever article happens to be entered here first. However, there are times when it makes more sense to rename the first entry because far more other pages link to another page.
  
Windycon
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It’s common for fanzines, clubs and other fannish institutions to take their names from fanspeak terms. In those instances, it’s best to arrange things so that the explanation of the word is titled with the plain term, while the things named after it get parenthetical modifiers. For example, Fanac, the fanzine, was changed to 'Fanac (Carr)' so that 'fanac', a common term, didn’t have to be written as 'fanac (fanspeak)' every time somebody used it.
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(Did you mean the [[Windycon (NZ)|New Zealand Natcon]]?)
 
  
Description...
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====Disambiguation====
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Windycon (NZ)
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Even if we have ''3'' similar pages, one page (the most popular, or least easy to give a readable modifier to) can have the unadorned name, and each page can point to 2 others by adding
 
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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Windycon}}
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{{DISPLAYTITLE:BEM}}
(Did you mean the annual Chicago convention [[Windycon]]?)
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(Did you mean a [[BEM (Ashworth)|Mal Ashworth fanzine]] or a [[BEM (Australia)|Australian clubzine]]?)
  
Description...
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to the top of the page.
  
The DISPLAYTITLE is what appears at the top of the page and in links, so you just refer to <nowiki>[[Windycon (NZ)]]</nowiki> and it will show Windycon on the page.
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====Disambiguation Pages====
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But if there are '''4''' similar pages the above method is definitely too clumsy, and we make the unadorned name (just plain "Unicon") point to a disambiguation page, like this:
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Did you mean:
  
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* [[Unicon (UK)|British convention]]
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* [[Unicon (Australia)|Australian convention]]
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* [[Unicon (MD)|Maryland convention]]
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* [[Unicon (CA)|Californian convention]]
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* [[Unicon (KC)|Kansas City convention]]
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* [[Unicon (FL)|Florida convention]]
  
The (caveat) should be things like (NZ) (Weston fanzine) (clubzine)
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Or do you know of yet another one!
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{{choice}}
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Ideally, we would handle them all the same, putting each thing on its own page. The problem with this is that if don't put them on the same page a naive link to, say, "Minicon" will take you to the ''wrong'' Minicon five times out of six.
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A disambiguation page will show all the incoming links to that page. We would like to correct all of the links to the disambiguation page to link directly to the proper destination page.  This needs to be done by hand.
 
 
 
 
====Multiple instances of the same kinds of thing. (E.g., two fanzines with the same name.)====
 
If all of the items are of the same kind: all fanzines, all conventions, all clubs, etc., then they can be listed on the same page with appropriate headers for eachBut if even one of the items is of a different kind, then separate pages are preferred.
 
 
 
====The Unpreferred Approach====
 
One other solution -- which works, but is in general not preferred -- is to list each of the other possibilities on each of the pages.  Looking at "windycon" where there's a long-running Chicago convention of that name as well as a single New Zealand Natcon of that name.
 
  
For the page for the Chicago convention:
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Then each entry can start with
 
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(Did you mean the [[Windycon (NZ)|New Zealand Natcon]]?)
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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Unicon}}
 
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(Did you mean a different [[Unicon]]?)
Description...
 
 
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And for Windycon (NZ):
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====Grouped Things====
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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Windycon}}
 
(Did you mean the annual Chicago convention [[Windycon]]?)
 
 
 
Description...
 
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There are two problems with this approach.  First, it gets pretty wordy and distracting if there are several items sharing a name, and secondly, ''each'' page must be updated each time a new item is added, which leads to errors.
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If a club called Icarus published a clubzine called Icarus, or a fanzine called Icarus was published for a bit, then restarted with a different editor, just have one page and explain it all.
  
 
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[[Category:admin]]

Latest revision as of 10:06, 3 February 2021

In an ideal world pages are set up so that a link to a page always takes you right to the intended page. So a page might say

Blah, blah, blah [[Jack Speer]], etc., etc.

and the link will take you to the important early fan, Jack Speer, that you expected. But what if there are multiple things with the same name? (E.g., "Minicon" is the name of at least five different things.)

Here's how we deal with that problem:

Naming Pages[edit]

First, each item gets its own page (except Grouped Things). The page names following the format name (modifier). The name is just the unadorned name. The modifier follows a fixed set of choices depending on what we're dealing with. (It's important for the modifier to be standardized, so that people can guess the right one the first time.)

For things which are geographical (Prozines, Conventions, Clubs, Locales, etc.) use the country or, for the US, the state. E.g., 'Unicon (UK)', 'Unicon (Australia)', 'Unicon (MD)'.

For a fanzine or apazine, use the last name of the primary editor. For a prozine, semiprozine, convention or a club use the area E.g., 'BEM (Ashworth)', 'BEM (Australia)', 'BEM (MA)'

Then page BEM (Ashworth) might start

{{DISPLAYTITLE:BEM}}

The DISPLAYTITLE is what appears at the top of the page and in links, so you just refer to [[BEM (Ashworth)]] and it will show BEM on the page.

In general, we use the unadorned name for whichever article happens to be entered here first. However, there are times when it makes more sense to rename the first entry because far more other pages link to another page.

It’s common for fanzines, clubs and other fannish institutions to take their names from fanspeak terms. In those instances, it’s best to arrange things so that the explanation of the word is titled with the plain term, while the things named after it get parenthetical modifiers. For example, Fanac, the fanzine, was changed to 'Fanac (Carr)' so that 'fanac', a common term, didn’t have to be written as 'fanac (fanspeak)' every time somebody used it.

Disambiguation[edit]

Even if we have 3 similar pages, one page (the most popular, or least easy to give a readable modifier to) can have the unadorned name, and each page can point to 2 others by adding

{{DISPLAYTITLE:BEM}}
(Did you mean a [[BEM (Ashworth)|Mal Ashworth fanzine]] or a [[BEM (Australia)|Australian clubzine]]?)

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to the top of the page.

Disambiguation Pages[edit]

But if there are 4 similar pages the above method is definitely too clumsy, and we make the unadorned name (just plain "Unicon") point to a disambiguation page, like this:

Did you mean:

* [[Unicon (UK)|British convention]]
* [[Unicon (Australia)|Australian convention]]
* [[Unicon (MD)|Maryland convention]]
* [[Unicon (CA)|Californian convention]]
* [[Unicon (KC)|Kansas City convention]]
* [[Unicon (FL)|Florida convention]]

Or do you know of yet another one!
{{choice}}

A disambiguation page will show all the incoming links to that page. We would like to correct all of the links to the disambiguation page to link directly to the proper destination page. This needs to be done by hand.

Then each entry can start with

{{DISPLAYTITLE:Unicon}}
(Did you mean a different [[Unicon]]?)

Grouped Things[edit]

If a club called Icarus published a clubzine called Icarus, or a fanzine called Icarus was published for a bit, then restarted with a different editor, just have one page and explain it all.