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== Née Cleek (1925–1991)? ==
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== Née Cleek? No. ==
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Possibly née Barbara Jean Cleek (b. 13 Aug 1925, St Clair Shores MI; d. 19 May 1991, Madera Co. CA); in the 1940 census ''Cleek'' was at 1011 Rosemont Ave in LA, 14 years old and living with her married older sister. (So if this was her, she might have been 17 when she took that wartime job in DC.) In the 1950 census Barbara ''Bovard'' was 24, separated from her husband and raising her 2-year-old son Kenneth in a Burbank apartment. In 1964, SSA listed her with the last name Broyles, and in 1965 she married Robert Llanos Chavez, a name she kept until her passing.
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Suggestion withdrawn (but check edit history for details). I no longer believe Barbara Cleek is related. [[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 09:34, 24 October 2022 (PDT)
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The Social Security Applications and Claims Index links all of these names and dates; the only question in my mind is whether ''this'' Barbara Bovard, who was living in LA in 1940 and also in 1950, is the 1940s LA fan Barbara Bovard. I hesitate to make this identification, since it entails that she would likely have been married by age 15 when she contributed to [[Snide]] #2 as Barbara Bovard, as mentioned in [[Censored]] #1 (June 1941). But I won't block consensus. [[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 07:59, 22 September 2022 (PDT)
 
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: I would want better proof. For one thing, the fan was Barbara '''''E.''''' Bovard. [[User:Leah Zeldes Smith|Leah Zeldes Smith]] ([[User talk:Leah Zeldes Smith|talk]]) 16:31, 22 September 2022 (PDT)
 
: I would want better proof. For one thing, the fan was Barbara '''''E.''''' Bovard. [[User:Leah Zeldes Smith|Leah Zeldes Smith]] ([[User talk:Leah Zeldes Smith|talk]]) 16:31, 22 September 2022 (PDT)
  
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What do we think? [[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 09:15, 24 October 2022 (PDT)
 
What do we think? [[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 09:15, 24 October 2022 (PDT)
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:Other than her inability to pronounce “Astounding” at age 12, sounds right.  Good work. —[[User:Leah Zeldes Smith|Leah Zeldes Smith]] ([[User talk:Leah Zeldes Smith|talk]]) 23:48, 24 October 2022 (PDT)
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::Or at age 8, at least. Of human interest (but not relevant to her name): Barbara had an older sister Mary Cora Edge who died in infancy. Their father may have left once he realized Edna was pregnant again, because he couldn't have been single for too long. I happen to know the LAPL director and have asked him if anyone remembers her, but I haven't heard anything specific yet. [[User:Bee Ostrowsky|Bee Ostrowsky]] ([[User talk:Bee Ostrowsky|talk]]) 14:30, 26 October 2022 (PDT)
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== Not to be confused with... ==
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* Barbara Edge (1919–2009), who appears as "Miss Barbara Edge" in society columns of the ''Imperial Valley Press'' (El Centro, California) around the late 1930s. Her middle name was Muriel.

Latest revision as of 09:39, 27 October 2022

Née Cleek? No.[edit]

Suggestion withdrawn (but check edit history for details). I no longer believe Barbara Cleek is related. Bee Ostrowsky (talk) 09:34, 24 October 2022 (PDT)

I would want better proof. For one thing, the fan was Barbara E. Bovard. Leah Zeldes Smith (talk) 16:31, 22 September 2022 (PDT)

Spotted her in a 1929 newspaper, I think[edit]

"Mrs. Bovard visited with her little daughter, Barbara Edge, over Sunday." From the Vashon Island News-Record (King County, Washington), Thursday, May 16, 1929, page 1.

It's not much, but it seems to be a link to Barbara Edge Bovard the fan!

OK, I think this is her.[edit]

Barbara Eleanor Edge was born January 29, 1922 in Fort Worth, Texas to Edna Orton (1896–1948) and William Taylor Edge (1898–1963).

Her mother then married Albert James Bovard (1888–1926); city directories from 1929–1930 listed Edna E. Bovard as the widow of Albert J. In the 1930 census Edna Bovard-Edge (sic) was a 33-year-old widowed stenographer living with her 8-year-old daughter Barbara E. Edge in Seattle.

She appears to have settled down in Los Angeles; in 1950 Barbara E. Edge was working for the city library as a typist, and her father's 1963 obituary referred to his daughter "Miss Barbara Edge of California". When Barbara died on November 19, 1998, her last address had been in the 90006 ZIP code, just a mile or two west of the downtown library.

What do we think? Bee Ostrowsky (talk) 09:15, 24 October 2022 (PDT)

Other than her inability to pronounce “Astounding” at age 12, sounds right. Good work. —Leah Zeldes Smith (talk) 23:48, 24 October 2022 (PDT)
Or at age 8, at least. Of human interest (but not relevant to her name): Barbara had an older sister Mary Cora Edge who died in infancy. Their father may have left once he realized Edna was pregnant again, because he couldn't have been single for too long. I happen to know the LAPL director and have asked him if anyone remembers her, but I haven't heard anything specific yet. Bee Ostrowsky (talk) 14:30, 26 October 2022 (PDT)

Not to be confused with...[edit]

  • Barbara Edge (1919–2009), who appears as "Miss Barbara Edge" in society columns of the Imperial Valley Press (El Centro, California) around the late 1930s. Her middle name was Muriel.
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