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Tho hurled by [[Campbell]]'s execration<br>
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From its original elevation<br>
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It still maintains a [[stfnal]] station<br>
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As a sensitive [[fannish]] recreation.
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The great majority of [[fans]] are male, and it has been asserted that females cannot be the psychological type of the [[SF]] [[fan]], tho there are many [[femmefans]] to refute this. In addition there are sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc, of male [[fans]] who tag along at [[fan gatherings]], make some appearance in the [[fanzines]], and assist in dirty work like [[mimeoing]].  
 
The great majority of [[fans]] are male, and it has been asserted that females cannot be the psychological type of the [[SF]] [[fan]], tho there are many [[femmefans]] to refute this. In addition there are sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc, of male [[fans]] who tag along at [[fan gatherings]], make some appearance in the [[fanzines]], and assist in dirty work like [[mimeoing]].  
 
   
 
   
It is generally believed that [[Joe Fann]] is later than average in associating with the other sex; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in [[fan]] discussions, tho there had been some isolated [[eroticism]] earlier among the [[Futurians]], [[Moonrakers]], etc. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on fan-meets-femme have appeared frequently in conversation and writing, and among the more mature [[Britishers]] have sometimes reached shockin' depths.  
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It is generally believed that [[Joe Fann]] is later than average in associating with the other sex; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in [[fan]] discussions, tho there had been some isolated [[eroticism]] earlier among the [[Futurians]], [[Moonrakers]], etc. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on [[fan]]-meets-[[femmefan|femme]] have appeared frequently in conversation and [[writing]], and among the more mature [[Britishers]] have sometimes reached shockin' depths.  
 
   
 
   
Whether [[fans]] are actually more or less promiscuous than other people is an unsettled point, tho from the way they talk you'd think there'd be no doubt about it. Outstanding exponents of an affirmative attitude are [[Insurgents]] and [[Sexocrats]] (followers, the latter, of a philosophy founded 1949 by [[Ray Nelson]]; its tenets are about what you'd expect). Frequently quoted is [[John W. Campbell, Jr.]]'s dictum, '''Sex and Science Fiction Don't Mix''' -- tho it's rarely given in its proper sense; [[JWC]] merely meant that [[stf]] runs distinctly less to pornography than, say, detective or Western [[pulp]]work. A few research projects like [[Bob Tucker]]'s [[Little Kinsey Report]] and the [[Liverpool Group]]'s Sex-and-Sadism symposium appear to contradict [[Campbell]] as his [[gagline]] is usually interpreted.  
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Whether [[fans]] are actually more or less promiscuous than other people is an unsettled point, tho from the way they talk you'd think there'd be no doubt about it. Outstanding exponents of an affirmative attitude are [[Insurgents]] and [[Sexocrats]] (followers, the latter, of a [[philosophy]] founded 1949 by [[Ray Nelson]]; its tenets are about what you'd expect). Frequently quoted is [[John W. Campbell, Jr.]]'s dictum, '''Sex and Science Fiction Don't Mix''' -- tho it's rarely given in its proper sense; [[JWC]] merely meant that [[stf]] runs distinctly less to pornography than, say, detective or Western [[pulp]]work.<ref>Today, of course, there are several sub-genres of [[stfnal]] porn, ranging from softcore [[paranormal]] romance to [[Chuck Tingle]]’s gay dinosaur porn, [[John Norman]]’s sadistic Gor series and much more.</ref> A few research projects like [[Bob Tucker]]'s [[Little Kinsey Report]] and the [[Liverpool Group]]'s [[Space Diversions|Sex-and-Sadism symposium]] appear to contradict [[Campbell]] as his [[gagline]] is usually interpreted.  
 
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The great majority of [[fans]] are males. It has been asserted that a female cannot be the psychological type of the [[s-f fan]], but there are several dyed-in-the-wool [[fannes]] to refute this. In addition, there are a lot of sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc. of the [[fanboys|he-fans]], who tag along at [[fan gatherings]], make some appearance in the [[fanzines]], and assist in dirty work such as [[mimeoing]].  
 
The great majority of [[fans]] are males. It has been asserted that a female cannot be the psychological type of the [[s-f fan]], but there are several dyed-in-the-wool [[fannes]] to refute this. In addition, there are a lot of sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc. of the [[fanboys|he-fans]], who tag along at [[fan gatherings]], make some appearance in the [[fanzines]], and assist in dirty work such as [[mimeoing]].  
 
   
 
   
It is generally believed that [[Joe Fann]] is considerably later than average in associating with girls; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in [[fan]] discussions, tho there had been some isolated [[eroticism]] earlier, especially among the [[Futurians]] and the [[Moonrakers]]. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on [[fan]]-meets-[[femme]] have appeared frequently in conversation and writing, and among the more "mature" Britishers have sometimes reached shocking depths. In America, a minority has been vociferously lewd, and some shoddy events have resulted from infidelity of married [[scientifictionists]].  
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It is generally believed that [[Joe Fann]] is considerably later than average in associating with girls; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in [[fan]] discussions, tho there had been some isolated [[eroticism]] earlier, especially among the [[Futurians]] and the [[Moonrakers]]. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on [[fan]]-meets-[[femme]] have appeared frequently in conversation and [[writing]], and among the more "mature" [[British]]ers have sometimes reached shocking depths. In [[America]], a minority has been vociferously lewd, and some shoddy events have resulted from infidelity of married [[scientifictionists]].  
 
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*[http://www.cfg.org/history/cinvention/mb/delrey.htm Sex and Science Fiction],1949 [[Cinvention]] speech by [[Lester del Rey]].
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*[http://www.cfg.org/history/cinvention/mb/delrey.htm “Sex and Science Fiction”], 1949 [[Cinvention]] speech by [[Lester del Rey]].
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* [http://www.jophan.org/mimosa/m10/kyle.htm “Sex in Fandom”] by [[David Kyle]].
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See also: [[Eroticism]], [[Fans Are Above Sex]], [[Fully Certified Sex Fiends]], [[Langdon Chart]], [[Kteic]] and [[Rosebud]].  
  
See also: [[Eroticism]], [[Fans Are Above Sex]], [[Fully Certified Sex Fiends]], [[Langdon Chart]].
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Revision as of 21:48, 12 June 2021

From Fancyclopedia 2, ca. 1959
Tho hurled by Campbell's execration

From its original elevation
It still maintains a stfnal station
As a sensitive fannish recreation.


The great majority of fans are male, and it has been asserted that females cannot be the psychological type of the SF fan, tho there are many femmefans to refute this. In addition there are sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc, of male fans who tag along at fan gatherings, make some appearance in the fanzines, and assist in dirty work like mimeoing.

It is generally believed that Joe Fann is later than average in associating with the other sex; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in fan discussions, tho there had been some isolated eroticism earlier among the Futurians, Moonrakers, etc. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on fan-meets-femme have appeared frequently in conversation and writing, and among the more mature Britishers have sometimes reached shockin' depths.

Whether fans are actually more or less promiscuous than other people is an unsettled point, tho from the way they talk you'd think there'd be no doubt about it. Outstanding exponents of an affirmative attitude are Insurgents and Sexocrats (followers, the latter, of a philosophy founded 1949 by Ray Nelson; its tenets are about what you'd expect). Frequently quoted is John W. Campbell, Jr.'s dictum, Sex and Science Fiction Don't Mix -- tho it's rarely given in its proper sense; JWC merely meant that stf runs distinctly less to pornography than, say, detective or Western pulpwork.[1] A few research projects like Bob Tucker's Little Kinsey Report and the Liverpool Group's Sex-and-Sadism symposium appear to contradict Campbell as his gagline is usually interpreted.

From Fancyclopedia 1, ca. 1944
The great majority of fans are males. It has been asserted that a female cannot be the psychological type of the s-f fan, but there are several dyed-in-the-wool fannes to refute this. In addition, there are a lot of sweethearts, wives, daughters, sisters, etc. of the he-fans, who tag along at fan gatherings, make some appearance in the fanzines, and assist in dirty work such as mimeoing.

It is generally believed that Joe Fann is considerably later than average in associating with girls; at any rate, it was some two years after 1938 (when the average fan was 18) before love affairs received any great notice in fan discussions, tho there had been some isolated eroticism earlier, especially among the Futurians and the Moonrakers. Since 1940 both generalizations and particulars on fan-meets-femme have appeared frequently in conversation and writing, and among the more "mature" Britishers have sometimes reached shocking depths. In America, a minority has been vociferously lewd, and some shoddy events have resulted from infidelity of married scientifictionists.

See also: Eroticism, Fans Are Above Sex, Fully Certified Sex Fiends, Langdon Chart, Kteic and Rosebud.

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  1. Today, of course, there are several sub-genres of stfnal porn, ranging from softcore paranormal romance to Chuck Tingle’s gay dinosaur porn, John Norman’s sadistic Gor series and much more.



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