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(Did you mean a [[Ktp (Lichtman)|Robert Lichtman fanzine]]?)
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[[Esperanto]] for ''etc.'', and used as an [[avoidance]] for it throughout [[Fancy 1]] and [[Fancy 2]], interspersed with '''''usw''''' (''und so weiter''), the German equivalent. Some [[fen]] prefer '''''&c.''''', which is something of a [[demolishism]].  
 
[[Esperanto]] for ''etc.'', and used as an [[avoidance]] for it throughout [[Fancy 1]] and [[Fancy 2]], interspersed with '''''usw''''' (''und so weiter''), the German equivalent. Some [[fen]] prefer '''''&c.''''', which is something of a [[demolishism]].  
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'Twas the [[Esparantist]] [[Ackerman]], not [[Speer]], who introduced this. The reason for having all these variations on and-so-forth is that [[fen]], steeped in [[Null-A]] thinking, realizing that most listings are incomplete perforce, and would tend to overuse etc were there no substitutes for  it.  Incidentally, [[Korzybski]] also used '''.,''' and ''',.''' as devices of similar meaning.  
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'Twas the [[Esperanto|Esparantist]] [[4E|Ackerman]], not [[Jack Speer|Speer]], who introduced this. The reason for having all these variations on and-so-forth is that [[fen]], steeped in [[Null-A]] thinking, realizing that most listings are incomplete perforce, and would tend to overuse etc were there no substitutes for  it.  Incidentally, [[Alfred Korzybski|Korzybski]] also used '''.,''' and ''',.''' as devices of similar meaning.  
 
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Revision as of 13:18, 8 May 2023

(Did you mean a Robert Lichtman fanzine?)


Esperanto for etc., and used as an avoidance for it throughout Fancy 1 and Fancy 2, interspersed with usw (und so weiter), the German equivalent. Some fen prefer &c., which is something of a demolishism.

From Fancyclopedia 2, ca. 1959
(Speer) Kaj tiel plu; Esperanto and so forth, equivalent to Latin etc and Deutsche usw.
From Fancyclopedia 2 Supplement, ca. 1960
'Twas the Esparantist Ackerman, not Speer, who introduced this. The reason for having all these variations on and-so-forth is that fen, steeped in Null-Ā thinking, realizing that most listings are incomplete perforce, and would tend to overuse etc were there no substitutes for it. Incidentally, Korzybski also used ., and ,. as devices of similar meaning.



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